Introducing: LINE2PRE Re-Preamp November 18, 2011 19:19 13 Comments
Reamping boxes like the LINE2AMP are a great studio tool for those who have a lot of amps, pedals, and other guitar-level gear lying around. Well, I dunno about you, but, being a recording engineer, I've invested a lot of more in awesome mic preamps than in guitar gear. And as well all know, a preamp that overdrives nicely is one of nature's finest signal processors. So I put together this little box that basically performs the same function as the LINE2AMP, but with a little extra volume reduction, an output impedance tailored to mic preamps, and an XLR output jack. Exceedingly simple, but it does it's job quietly and with pretty much zero sonic fingerprint.
Full kits and assembly instructions for the LINE2PRE will be available in the store in early 2015.
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Anders on November 12, 2014 17:59
Hi there
What are the values for the resistors?
This one is for a 10K:150 transformer, right?
Would it be possible to use a 10K:600 transformer instead, and if yes, what should the values for the resistors be then?
Peterson Goodwyn on November 12, 2014 17:59
Hi Anders, yes this is for the 10k:150 transformer. In fact, I’ve found that if you use that transformer you don’t actually need the H-pad after the transformer. Just terminate the transformer with a 150 Ohm resistor between the secondaries.
Yes, it’s possible to use a 10k:600, but then you’d definitely want the H-pad. Here’s a great place for calculating h-pad resistor values depending on the impedances and amount of attenuation you want: http://www.nu9n.com/tpad-calculator.html
You’ll want 600 ohm input and 150 ohm output impedance.
Anders on November 12, 2014 17:59
Cool! Thanks a bunch!
milosh on November 12, 2014 17:59
Will MONACOR DIB 110 be good for LINE2AMP ?
This is 47k:600 transformer for di boxes
It has only 2 pins on the input. Does it matter ?
here is the link
http://www.monacor-ost.com/catalogue-product.phtml?id=6231&Comp=0&Hier=1&MainKtg=155&SubKtg=611
cheers
Peterson Goodwyn on November 12, 2014 17:59
The DIB 110 doesn’t look ideal: it’s designed for mic, instead of line level, and the steep step-down ratio will give you a really low output level.
milosh on November 12, 2014 17:59
OK thanks !
What about Monacor LTR-110 ?
http://www.monacor-ost.com/catalogue-product.phtml?id=2651&Comp=0&Hier=1&MainKtg=155&SubKtg=595
it is 1:1 though..
Peterson Goodwyn on November 12, 2014 17:59
1:1 will work ok, but you might want some sort of h-pad after the transformer to pad the output signal.
milosh on November 12, 2014 17:59
thanks !!
milosh on November 12, 2014 17:59
Hi, It’s me again !
Two monacor transformers came to me (for stereo version)
I am counting the values for resistors for the H-pad.
Now my questions are:
- since my transformer is 1:1 then my H-pad should attenuate about 40db right?
- is the wattage of resistors important?
cheers milosh
Phil on November 12, 2014 17:59
Would it be possible to build one of these in the same box as a line2amp? That would be pretty sweet to be able to re-amp to instrument or line levels with one tool.
Peterson Goodwyn on November 12, 2014 17:59
Phil, funny enough, that was the original idea for the LINE2AMP Rev C. I decided against it, however, because there’s really little difference between a good, low-impedance line signal like the LINE2AMP gives you and a mic signal such as the LINE2PRE would give you. They’re both balanced and low impedance, the difference between them is just a matter of the typical levels. A moderate line-level signal is a pretty loud mic signal, etc.
Ergo, you can actually patch the output of the LINE2AMP to a mic preamp, just be careful about how much volume you send it. I built in a pad to the LINE2PRE to drop the level, but you could just send less level to the box in the first place.
Td;dr— The LINE2AMP is more-or-less the same as the LINE2PRE, but without the pad and with a 1/4" output jack instead of XLR.
Dan James on November 12, 2014 17:59
Hi Peterson,
I have your line2amp box and love it, I have usually used a JDI for revamping back through preamps. Would it be better if I put the line2amp before the JDI or just keep doing the same?
Peterson Goodwyn on November 12, 2014 17:59
Hi Dan,
Great question. Putting the LINE2AMP before the JdI would not make much of a difference, except for the additional 12dB of attenuation you’ll get from the LINE2AMP. Since the JDI has a transformer, most of the functions of the LINE2AMP, such as isolating the grounds and attenuating the signal, will be taken care of by the JDI.
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